the latter, the former Governor of New York, Andrew Cuomo’s disgraced predecessor, who in 2008, stepped down due to his inappropriate sexual conduct rivaling the Marquis de Sade’s.
William Jefferson Clinton in 1998, caught literally with his pants down with a young intern a mere seven years younger than his daughter.
A photo of him in 1963, meeting JFK at the White House, the role model he appeared to be.
Bubba’s behavior too was no surprise, and like Mrs. Kennedy and many other wives who turn the other way as they buy another dress, as long as they weren’t publicly embarrassed said, have a good time in JFK’s White House pool, that by the time the Clintons arrived, had been turned into the press room, by DICK Nixon.
- © 2011-2018 My eBooks, Notes From A Working Cat, A New York Diary and Model Behavior: Friends For life are available @ http://www.amazon.com by tapping on their covers.
Author
Susannah’s Fall, Winter Reading List, 2020-2021
-
Recent Posts
Archives
Meta
The Big Bang
John Kennedy, Bill Clinton and Eliot Spitzer,
Stepping up to the plate,
Bobby then went to his father who said, “Who cares how many times Jack gets laid. Good! He should get laid more.”
Meet John and Bobby’s, tossing in Ted’s, role model.
But Jackie covered up Jack’s indiscretions creating the myth of Camelot.
As for Hillary,
or for worse.
This entry was posted in Books, Culture, History, humanity, men, Politics, readng, Women and men, words, writing and tagged Bill and Hillary Clinton, Former Governor Eliot Spitzer, John Kennedy White House Years, Monica Lewinsky scandal, sex in politics. Bookmark the permalink.
Power, whether political, sports, entertainment, etc., draws groupies like moths to a flame. I think many of the powerhouses start out honorably. After they become surrounded by toadies telling them they are above us commoners and deserve whatever they desire, they begin to believe it. Especially when they see the majority of their peers doing the same.
There are plenty of women who abused their power as well, (think Joan Crawford), though men are usually in the limelight since they tend to rise to the top so much more often.
I tend to judge a political leader more by his politics and results. Right or wrong, I gloss over his/her personal indiscretions as long as they are kept private, are mutually consensual, are not illegal, and don’t endanger the country or any person. Alas, this is seldom the case.
LikeLiked by 2 people
It’s how the French have done it, as well as many Italians. Nothing is black and white, but discretion should be a major player, no matter what. The word toadies jumped out at me. Great word. 🙂
LikeLiked by 1 person
Power politics and infidelity seem to go hand in hand (or gland in gland). Or at least, that’s true for the blokes: I can’t imagine Thatcher, Bhutto, Meier, or Gandhi shagging their interns. Weird really. It’s a highly (maybe the most) competitive environment. So you don’t get to the top without intelligence, judgement, funds and a lot of friends. Why would you risk all that?
LikeLike
Why is a good question, yet they did. I was just told, in a personal email, this was a very inappropriate post for a Sunday. Love the term shagging. Austin Powers term. 🙂
LikeLiked by 1 person
Well, in that case, I expect your next Sunday post to be about the sins of the God-fearing. 😉
LikeLiked by 1 person
I’ll dig out best Billy Graham, see what I can come up with. 🙂
LikeLiked by 1 person
I think it describes the subject at hand very well; no tenderness, respect, or consideration; just friction and drop-off point.
The truth is the truth, whatever the day of the week. Sabbatarians are seriously weird people.
LikeLiked by 1 person
I didn’t care really. I always just write for myself anyway. Critics are like moths, pesty and hard to get rid of.
LikeLiked by 1 person
Very interesting snd well thought out. Stay safe!
~Hal Rubenstein from my iPhone
LikeLiked by 1 person
Hi Hal. Just a thin girl with time on her hands. 🙂
LikeLike
I think I’d like to return to the days when we didn’t know every personality flaw and act of misbehavior by our politicians and celebrities. The constant disclosure of everything is driving good people away from politics and leadership roles — nobody is perfect, everybody is human, and unless their flaws and misbehavior are particularly deviant or harmful to others, why should we care. JFK’s flings were with knowing, consenting adults, as far as we know. I really think we need to re-consider how much we really need or want to know about the quirks and habits of our elected officials.
LikeLiked by 1 person
Gee Midget, sounds like my recap/expose may have offended you. Was not my aim. For me it’s lore, and all lore fascinates me, even if it’s unseemly.
LikeLiked by 1 person
No, no, no. Didn’t offend me at all. It’s history and history is what it is. Just commenting on how we now know everything about everybody and I think that does more harm than good.
LikeLiked by 1 person
I totally agree. It’s like seeing everybody incessantly naked. Muckraking, to quote Teddy Roosevelt, has never been more sinister.
We are all flawed, yet JFK’s inaugural address can still rock the house, and I’m told by a woman that Bill Clinton is the most charming person she’s ever met. And I’m sorry to say. I don’t really have anything generous to say about Spitzer, even in general. Clinton is also the highest paid person on the lecture circuit so clearly, we’ve gotten over his Oval indiscretion. I eat history for breakfast, as you know, and love sharing it.
LikeLiked by 1 person
I for one have always liked the idea of banging women in a hotel. Never a few minutes from home, never while committed, and never for payment. I always had a problem with the idea of a chief executive using obvious power ploys to bed star-struck damsels (I like that word. Sounds so helpless) Clinton with a 22-year-old intern was the lowest of the low. If I had been her father I would have wanted to horsewhip him for not having the decency to protect someone away from home who obviously had maturity issues. I liked your discussion. Good one, Susannah.
LikeLiked by 1 person
Your opening line had me on the floor. Yeah, the Monica issue I too find, still, very unsavory especially how after that, he and his ferocious Missus, did everything but put a contract out on her, vilifying her to no end. That’s what really goads me, their coldness…all is fair in war and Politics . To quote that great sage, Eliza Doolittle…kiss my bloomin’ ass.
LikeLiked by 1 person
The Clinton’s scared me a lot. There is no one home in the empathy attic in their house.
LikeLiked by 1 person
You said it. You wonder how they sleep at night.
LikeLiked by 1 person
In a casket in the basement covered in dirt
LikeLiked by 1 person
So funny. It explains her hair.
LikeLiked by 1 person
And his color. 😁
LikeLiked by 1 person
congratulations on her most recent success. 🙂
LikeLiked by 1 person
What success is that?
LikeLiked by 1 person
On your site. I meant your friend’s. Sorry for being unclear.
LikeLiked by 1 person
Got it. Thank you. 😊
LikeLiked by 1 person
PS…I may have revised Eliza, just a little.
LikeLiked by 1 person
🤣 Loved it.
LikeLiked by 1 person
It seems to be a thing with powerful men, although honestly it might just be powerful people since most politicians are men. I do always feel bad for their wives though for the double injury of the heartache and humiliation.
LikeLiked by 1 person
H & H… yes indeed. Many women quietly endure when their men are at least discreet, but when their out-of-the-box behavior goes viral, then it’s another matter altogether.
LikeLike
Three call girls in ONE day? Man, I really must have zero drive in that department because I am exhausted just thinking about it! And from what I remember, when Spitzer’s term ended early, one of his friends told him it was alright, that it happens to everybody.
As for the Kennedys, they knew how to handle this stuff best of all. Then again, it was a different time. I can’t imagine these shenanigans wouldn’t be uncovered by TMZ in five minutes nowadays. . .
LikeLiked by 1 person
Spitzer really got caught with his pants down. And the Kennedys, if they were here now, would be so fucked, pardon all the puns, but the press protected them like the cavalry, with pencils behind their ears.
LikeLiked by 1 person
It was the same for celebrities and athletes. Imagine the Babe in today’s world? It would be like declawing a Lion and then removing its incisors. Just not the same at all.
LikeLiked by 1 person
My favorite Babe story…the press used to ride the train with the team, so one day, Babe comes runnin naked through the press car chased by a dame with a knife. A newspaper guy says, well. that’s one more story we ain’t printin. I love that 🙂
LikeLiked by 1 person
Hahaha! Imagine all the stories that got left on the cutting room floor. . .
LikeLiked by 1 person
But I like that they were respectful of a notable’s private life, unlike now where they rifle through your garbage cans. I’ll tell ya. How did we become National Enquirer City?
LikeLiked by 1 person
Me too. I don’t dig this idea that an individual’s private life is somehow part of the public domain. It ain’t.
LikeLiked by 1 person
No it ain’t, indeed. Muckraking…an old Teddy term we should take outta mothballs.
LikeLiked by 1 person
A word for the Melville File. Teddy had game on so many fronts.
LikeLiked by 1 person
Oh year…a perfect addition.
LikeLiked by 1 person
Love it
LikeLiked by 1 person
It amazes me how these men basically got away with this, in the grand scheme of things while the poor women are treated like shit.
You know I love your historical tidbits – of all genres!
LikeLiked by 1 person
If it were now, JFK would be next to Harvey and Cos, in the slammer.
LikeLiked by 1 person
No, no…of course not. The present occupant isn’t…
LikeLike
???
LikeLiked by 1 person
Meaning the title of president seems to leave you exempt from true punishment ..
LikeLiked by 1 person
I see.
LikeLiked by 1 person
Not that that is okay!
LikeLike
Not sure what okay even means anymore since it’s broadened its range.
LikeLiked by 1 person
I know what you mean.
Men in power need the be brought down many pegs.
LikeLiked by 1 person
And sent to bed without their supper.
LikeLiked by 1 person
Haha… And then some.
LikeLiked by 1 person
And then some.
LikeLiked by 1 person
Indeed.
LikeLiked by 1 person
Today we are so desensitized by the inappropriate behaviors of men in power that getting a blow job in the oval office seems minimal. Honestly, it could happen in the rose garden, broadcasted across the land, and somehow it would be twisted to convince us we didn’t see it. I miss the days of speculation.
LikeLiked by 1 person
You’re right. There’s no cap on inappropriate behavior anymore. Anything Goes…like the song says.
LikeLiked by 1 person
Unfortunatley …
LikeLiked by 1 person