The Big Bang
John Kennedy, Bill Clinton and Eliot Spitzer,
Stepping up to the plate,
Bobby then went to his father who said, “Who cares how many times Jack gets laid. Good! He should get laid more.”
Meet John and Bobby’s, tossing in Ted’s, role model.
But Jackie covered up Jack’s indiscretions creating the myth of Camelot.
As for Hillary,
or for worse.
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Power, whether political, sports, entertainment, etc., draws groupies like moths to a flame. I think many of the powerhouses start out honorably. After they become surrounded by toadies telling them they are above us commoners and deserve whatever they desire, they begin to believe it. Especially when they see the majority of their peers doing the same.
There are plenty of women who abused their power as well, (think Joan Crawford), though men are usually in the limelight since they tend to rise to the top so much more often.
I tend to judge a political leader more by his politics and results. Right or wrong, I gloss over his/her personal indiscretions as long as they are kept private, are mutually consensual, are not illegal, and don’t endanger the country or any person. Alas, this is seldom the case.
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It’s how the French have done it, as well as many Italians. Nothing is black and white, but discretion should be a major player, no matter what. The word toadies jumped out at me. Great word. 🙂
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Power politics and infidelity seem to go hand in hand (or gland in gland). Or at least, that’s true for the blokes: I can’t imagine Thatcher, Bhutto, Meier, or Gandhi shagging their interns. Weird really. It’s a highly (maybe the most) competitive environment. So you don’t get to the top without intelligence, judgement, funds and a lot of friends. Why would you risk all that?
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Why is a good question, yet they did. I was just told, in a personal email, this was a very inappropriate post for a Sunday. Love the term shagging. Austin Powers term. 🙂
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Well, in that case, I expect your next Sunday post to be about the sins of the God-fearing. 😉
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I’ll dig out best Billy Graham, see what I can come up with. 🙂
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I think it describes the subject at hand very well; no tenderness, respect, or consideration; just friction and drop-off point.
The truth is the truth, whatever the day of the week. Sabbatarians are seriously weird people.
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I didn’t care really. I always just write for myself anyway. Critics are like moths, pesty and hard to get rid of.
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Very interesting snd well thought out. Stay safe!
~Hal Rubenstein from my iPhone
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Hi Hal. Just a thin girl with time on her hands. 🙂
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I think I’d like to return to the days when we didn’t know every personality flaw and act of misbehavior by our politicians and celebrities. The constant disclosure of everything is driving good people away from politics and leadership roles — nobody is perfect, everybody is human, and unless their flaws and misbehavior are particularly deviant or harmful to others, why should we care. JFK’s flings were with knowing, consenting adults, as far as we know. I really think we need to re-consider how much we really need or want to know about the quirks and habits of our elected officials.
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Gee Midget, sounds like my recap/expose may have offended you. Was not my aim. For me it’s lore, and all lore fascinates me, even if it’s unseemly.
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No, no, no. Didn’t offend me at all. It’s history and history is what it is. Just commenting on how we now know everything about everybody and I think that does more harm than good.
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I totally agree. It’s like seeing everybody incessantly naked. Muckraking, to quote Teddy Roosevelt, has never been more sinister.
We are all flawed, yet JFK’s inaugural address can still rock the house, and I’m told by a woman that Bill Clinton is the most charming person she’s ever met. And I’m sorry to say. I don’t really have anything generous to say about Spitzer, even in general. Clinton is also the highest paid person on the lecture circuit so clearly, we’ve gotten over his Oval indiscretion. I eat history for breakfast, as you know, and love sharing it.
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I for one have always liked the idea of banging women in a hotel. Never a few minutes from home, never while committed, and never for payment. I always had a problem with the idea of a chief executive using obvious power ploys to bed star-struck damsels (I like that word. Sounds so helpless) Clinton with a 22-year-old intern was the lowest of the low. If I had been her father I would have wanted to horsewhip him for not having the decency to protect someone away from home who obviously had maturity issues. I liked your discussion. Good one, Susannah.
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Your opening line had me on the floor. Yeah, the Monica issue I too find, still, very unsavory especially how after that, he and his ferocious Missus, did everything but put a contract out on her, vilifying her to no end. That’s what really goads me, their coldness…all is fair in war and Politics . To quote that great sage, Eliza Doolittle…kiss my bloomin’ ass.
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The Clinton’s scared me a lot. There is no one home in the empathy attic in their house.
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You said it. You wonder how they sleep at night.
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In a casket in the basement covered in dirt
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So funny. It explains her hair.
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And his color. 😁
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congratulations on her most recent success. 🙂
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What success is that?
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On your site. I meant your friend’s. Sorry for being unclear.
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Got it. Thank you. 😊
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PS…I may have revised Eliza, just a little.
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🤣 Loved it.
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It seems to be a thing with powerful men, although honestly it might just be powerful people since most politicians are men. I do always feel bad for their wives though for the double injury of the heartache and humiliation.
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H & H… yes indeed. Many women quietly endure when their men are at least discreet, but when their out-of-the-box behavior goes viral, then it’s another matter altogether.
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Three call girls in ONE day? Man, I really must have zero drive in that department because I am exhausted just thinking about it! And from what I remember, when Spitzer’s term ended early, one of his friends told him it was alright, that it happens to everybody.
As for the Kennedys, they knew how to handle this stuff best of all. Then again, it was a different time. I can’t imagine these shenanigans wouldn’t be uncovered by TMZ in five minutes nowadays. . .
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Spitzer really got caught with his pants down. And the Kennedys, if they were here now, would be so fucked, pardon all the puns, but the press protected them like the cavalry, with pencils behind their ears.
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It was the same for celebrities and athletes. Imagine the Babe in today’s world? It would be like declawing a Lion and then removing its incisors. Just not the same at all.
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My favorite Babe story…the press used to ride the train with the team, so one day, Babe comes runnin naked through the press car chased by a dame with a knife. A newspaper guy says, well. that’s one more story we ain’t printin. I love that 🙂
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Hahaha! Imagine all the stories that got left on the cutting room floor. . .
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But I like that they were respectful of a notable’s private life, unlike now where they rifle through your garbage cans. I’ll tell ya. How did we become National Enquirer City?
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Me too. I don’t dig this idea that an individual’s private life is somehow part of the public domain. It ain’t.
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No it ain’t, indeed. Muckraking…an old Teddy term we should take outta mothballs.
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A word for the Melville File. Teddy had game on so many fronts.
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Oh year…a perfect addition.
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Love it
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It amazes me how these men basically got away with this, in the grand scheme of things while the poor women are treated like shit.
You know I love your historical tidbits – of all genres!
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If it were now, JFK would be next to Harvey and Cos, in the slammer.
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No, no…of course not. The present occupant isn’t…
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???
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Meaning the title of president seems to leave you exempt from true punishment ..
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I see.
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Not that that is okay!
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Not sure what okay even means anymore since it’s broadened its range.
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I know what you mean.
Men in power need the be brought down many pegs.
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And sent to bed without their supper.
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Haha… And then some.
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And then some.
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Indeed.
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Today we are so desensitized by the inappropriate behaviors of men in power that getting a blow job in the oval office seems minimal. Honestly, it could happen in the rose garden, broadcasted across the land, and somehow it would be twisted to convince us we didn’t see it. I miss the days of speculation.
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You’re right. There’s no cap on inappropriate behavior anymore. Anything Goes…like the song says.
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Unfortunatley …
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